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Early 20th Century Versions Of African American Folk Songs With The Lyrics "When I Die Bury Me Deep" Or "Sticks And Stones May Break My Bones"

Early 20th Century Versions Of African American Folk Songs With The Lyrics "When I Die Bury Me Deep" Or "Sticks And Stones May Break My Bones"
Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases text (word only) examples of two groups of songs from the early twentieth century that include the lyrics "pickle my bones in alcohol"* or "sticks and stones may break my bones". These text examples are from the "Drink And Gambling Song" section of the full text of "The Frank C. Brown Collection of North Carolina Folklore; the folklore of North Carolina, collected by Dr. Frank C. Brown during the years 1912 to 1943, in collaboration with the North Carolina Folklore Society".

*Songs with the lyrics "pickle my bones in alcohol" may be better known now as songs or verses that begin with the lyrics "when I die/bury me deep" or similar text.

The content of this post is presented for folkloric and cultural purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the unknown composers of these songs and thanks to Frank C. Brown and other members of the North Carolina Folkloric Society for collecting these and other songs. Thanks also to the publishers of this collection online.
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[Added September 15, 2017]
The Addendum to this post showcased the "When I Die" (pickle my bones in alcohol" song/rhyme in Thomas W. Talley's 1922 book Negro Folk Rhymes, Wise And Otherwise.

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EXCERPT FROM THE FRANK C BROWN COLLECTION OF NORTH CAROLINA FOLKLORE
[pages 38-40; text examples #69-#72]

Note that the commentary in this excerpt uses the now retired referent "Negro" for "African Americans".]

From https://archive.org/stream/frankcbrowncolle03fran/frankcbrowncolle03fran_djvu.txt

"38. Pickle My Bones in Alcohol 69

39. Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones 71


38
Pickle My Bones in Alcohol

This jocose jingle seems to have a special appeal for Negroes, though it is not confined to them nor is it, probably, of Negro origin. It has been reported from New York (ANFS 368), Tennessee (JAFL XXVIII 130), North Carolina (FSSH 438), Georgia (FSSH 438), Missouri (OFS iii 197-8), and from Negroes in Mississippi (JAFL xxviii 130). In a form which probably is of Negro origin 'lasses and corn bread take the place of alcohol : so in a text reported from Alabama Negroes (ANFS 277) and in some of our North Carolina texts. Or the two notions may be combined, as in our A text and in Negro versions reported from Alabama (ANFS 368-9) and without specific locale bv Talley (Negro Folk Rhymes 26).

'When I Die.' Reported by Julian P. Boyd, Alliance, Pamlico county, as obtained from Duval Scott, a pupil in the school there.

I When I die don't bury me deep ;
Put a jug o' 'lasses at my feet.

Put a pone o' bread in my hand,
And I'll sop my way to the promised land!

When I die don't bury me at all ;
Just pickle my bones in alcohol.

Put a bottle of booze at my head and feet,
And then PU know that 1 will keep.

For Pm a man w4io must have a little likker
When Pm dry, dry, dry !


'When Colonel Died.' Reported by Miss Gertrude Allen (afterwards Mrs. Vaught ) from Taylorsville, Alexander county. Not dated.

I When Colonel died with a bottle by his side

2 When I die don't bury me at all.
Just pickle my bones in alcohol.

3 Put a bottle of booze at my head and feet
And say, 'Colonel died in joy complete.'

c

'Drinking Song.' From Lucille Cheek, Chatham county.

Oh, when I die don't bury me at all ;
Just pickle my bones in alcohol.
Place a bottle of booze at my head and feet.
Tell all the girls Pve gone to sleep.


'When I Die.' From ]\Iiss F. Shuma, in 1920. Location not given. The same as C except the last line, which runs : "So these old bones shall rest in peace."

'When I Die.' From Miss Kate S. Russell, Person county. Here the alcohol has disappeared.

When I die, want you bury me deep.
Put a jug of lasses at my head and feet.
Pone corn bread in the palm of my hand ;
Going to sop lasses in de promised land.


'O When I Die Don't Bury :\Ie Deep.' Contributed in 1919 by H. H.
Hanchey as heard in the southeastern part of North CaroHna. Like E,
but has its last line in the more familiar fdrni: "So I kin sop my way
to de promise land."


DRINK AND GAMBLING SONGS 71

39
Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones

This line is found in Negro songs reported from North Carolina and Alabama (ANFS 145) which are not specifically drinking songs but are concerned, like the texts here presented, with the singer's posthumous reputation � an element which Dr. White says occurs "in various spirituals."

'A Drunkard's Song.' Contributed in 1913 by William B. Covington with the notation : "Reminiscences of my early youth spent in the country on the border of the sand hills of Scotland County."

Sticks and stones may break my bones,

Say what you please when I'm dead and gone;

But I'm gona drink corn liquor till I die,

Till I die, till I die,

I'm gona drink corn liquor till I die.

B

'Song.' From Louise W. Sloan, Bladen county. No date given.

I'm a-living high till I die.

Bet your life I'm a-living mighty high;

Oh, sticks and stones for to breaker my bones,

I know you'll talk about me when I'm gone

But I'm a-living high till I die.


'Ise Gwine to Live in de Harvest.' Reported by Julian P. Boyd as obtained from Duval Scott, one of his pupils in the school at Alliance, Pamlico county.

1 Ise gwine to live in de harvest.
Till I die, till I die ;

Life Ise livin' is not so very high ;

Sticks and stones gwine break my bones,

I know you gwine talk about me when Ise gone ;

Ise gwine live in de harvest till I die !

2 Ise gwine build me a graveyard
Of my own, of my own !

Ise gwine build me a graveyard of my own.
Sticks and stones gwine break my bones,
I know you gwnne talk about me when Ise gone.
Ise gwine live in de harvest till I die !



72 NORTH CAROLINA FOLKLORE

40
Just Kick the Dust over my Coffin

In form this is akin to 'Pickle My Bones in Alcohol,' above ; but its spirit is somewhat different, the speaker being about to die of love, and perhaps it should not be here among the drinking songs. I have not found it elsewhere. The manuscript is without name in the Collection, but from surrounding circumstances it is believed to have come from Obadiah Johnson of Crossnore, Avery county.

1 Just kick the dust over my coffin.
Say, 'There lies a jovial young lad :'
Pile the earth upon my carcass/
Then carve on the stone at my head :

Chorus:

Oh, ain't it a wonderful story
That love it will kill a man dead.

2 Oh, none of you bawling and squalling
Around me as tho' you'd gone mad ;
Just kick the dust over my coffin

And tell my true love that I said : " "

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ADDENDUM- AN EXAMPLE OF THE "WHEN I DIE" SONG/RHYME FROM THOMAS WE. TALLEY'S 1922 BOOK "NEGRO FOLK RHYMES: WISE AND OTHERWISE"
From https://archive.org/stream/negrofolkrhymesw00talluoft/negrofolkrhymesw00talluoft_djvu.txt

[page] 25

"WHEN MY WIFE DIES

WEN my wife dies, gwineter git me anudder one;
A big fat yaller one, jes lak de yudder one.
I'll hate mighty bad, w'en she's been gone.
Hain't no better 'oman never nowhars been bo'n.

Wen I comes to die, you mus'n' bury me deep,
But put Sogrum molasses close by my feet.
Put a pone o' co'n bread way down in my han'.
Gwineter sop on de way to de Promus' Lan'.

Wen I goes to die, Nobody mus'n' cry,
Mus'n' dress up in black, fer I mought come back.
But w'en I'se been dead, an' almos' fergotten;
You mought think about me an' keep on a-trottin'.

Railly, w'en I'se been dead, you needn* bury me

at tall.

You mought pickle my bones down in alkihall ;
Den fold my ban's "so," right across my breas';
An* go an' tell de folks I'se done gone to "res'.""
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Here are my explanation for the word followed by an asterisk and the descriptor "yaller".

*needs= don't need to

"Yaller" = a light skinned Black person

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"Rock Steady" Children's Cheers (Examples & Comments) Updated With Additional Examples

"Rock Steady" Children's Cheers (Examples & Comments) Updated With Additional Examples
Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancoocjams post was originally published on May 20, 2013. An additional example was added on June 6, 2013 and three additional examples were added on July 6, 2017.

This post is Part II of a two part series on the American R&B songs & children's cheerleader cheers that have the title "Rock Steady".

Part II of this series features videos & transcriptions of a number of examples of the children's cheerleader cheer with the name "Rock Steady". Part II also includes my comments about the probable military cadence "source" for these "Rock Steady" cheers, and my comments about the meaning of the term "rock steady".

Part I features videos of Aretha Franklin's 1971 dance song "Rock Steady" and The Whispers' 1987 dance song "Rock Steady". Part I also includes my comments about the inspiration for the title of those two songs, the meaning of the term "rock steady" in those two songs, and information about a dance movement that was usually performed for those two songs.

Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/05/examples-of-comments-about-aretha.html for Part I of this series.

The content of this post is presented for folkloric, cultural, and recreational purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to those cheerleaders who are featured in this post. Thanks also to the YouTube publishers of these videos.

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THE MILITARY CADENCE SOURCE FOR "ROCK STEADY" CHEERS
I believe that the cheerleader cheer "Rock Steady" comes from the military cadence with the same title. Here's one version of that cheer from
DS2000, http://community.armystudyguide.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/9651093521/m/2181065521, posted 22 January 2005 22:06
Rock, (reply) ROCK!
steady, (reply) STEADY!
Roll, (reply) ROLL!
Ready (reply) READY! - sometimes I use EASY here instead of READY. Or sometimes after they say ROLL, I will scream, "I can't here you!" then go back to the "Rock" at the beginning.

You've got the right, the right to rock steady, ( reply is the same )

You've got the right to ROLL when you're ready, ( reply is the same )


(then you say the top part again twice)


Rock, Rock, Steady, Steady Charlie Rock is always ready! ( reply is same)
Rock, Rock Steady, Steady 1st Platoon is always ready! ( reply is same)

That's about all I can recall right now. If I think of anymore I'll add it. Feel free to insert your own words as well. I do it all the time! LOL

Hope this helps!

Location: Baumholder, Germany....
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Compare the line "Charlie Rock is always ready" with theses lines from some versions of the children's cheer"s "cause our team is always ready" and "cause your team ain't even ready".

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/05/rock-steady-military-cadences-with.html for examples of Rock Steady military cadences.

The 1987 "Rock Steady" song by The Whispers and the 1971 "Rock Steady" song by Aretha Franklin may have influenced the popularity of the "Rock Steady" cheer. However, I don't think that those R&B songs were the actual source for the children's cheer.

I also don't believe that the Jamaican Rocksteady music genre wasn't a source for these cheers because Americans are still unfamiliar with Rocksteady music.

*By "children's cheerleader cheers", I mean cheerleader cheers & chants that are performed by children and teens in community cheerleader squads and/or in school cheerleader squads prior to colleges or universities.

Click this pancocojams post for information about Rocksteady music: http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/05/classic-jamaican-rocksteady-songs-sound.html.

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THE MEANING OF THE TERM "ROCK STEADY" IN CHEERLEADING CHEERS
In children's cheerleader cheers, "rock steady" means "to consistently do something very well: i.e. "to consistently excel on the athletic field." In these cheers "rock steady" is either given as a compliment "The [name of the athletic team] rocks steady", of as a diss (insult) "Your team don't rock steady"/ Your team "ain't even ready" (isn't prepared to best our team). In its complimentary form, "rock steady" is related to the American colloquial expression "You rock!" (meaning "You're great.".)

At the same time, "rock steady: in those cheers refers to steadily rhythmically moving your hips from side to side to the beat.

Aside from societal imposed gender expectations (that males would swing their hips much less than females), whether any hip swinging is done while performing the "rock steady" cheer or how much hip swinging is done while performing that cheer depends on the type of cheerleading squad. If the cheerleading squad adheres to mainstream cheerleading, that squad is much less likely to perform this cheer or others like it which are either of African American origin or have been influenced by African American songs. Furthermore, even if that squad were to perform a "Rock Steady" cheer, because of the admonition in mainstream cheerleading against cheerleaders swinging their hips, very little to no hip swinging would be done.

In contrast, in a stomp & shake cheerleading squad, hip swinging is an integral feature of cheerleading routines, and hip swinging would be performed while chanting the Rock Steady cheer and other cheers like it.

It appears from YouTube videos that a significant number of American children's cheerleading squads have adopted some degree of hip shaking into their cheer routines. That is particularly the case with chants such as "Rock Steady" which are inspired by if not originated from African American culture.

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(These examples are presented in chronological order based on the date of their YouTube posting, with the oldest dated example posted first. The transcriptions are done by me from the videos. Additions & corrections are very welcome.)

Example #1: "Rock Steady" cheer



Sydney Calloway, Uploaded on Jan 16, 2010

Jv cheerleaders preforming rock steady at an away game during a quater at the boys basketball game.

CHEER LYRICS (Example #1)
Rock, rock steady
Cause your team
Ain't even ready
To rock rock rock rock
Steady eddy eddy eddy rock
Rock steady

[repeat several times]
-posted by Sydney Calloway, Uploaded on Jan 16, 2010
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The words "Steady eddy eddy" are included in many but not all of the "Rock Steady" cheerleading cheers. That phrase isn't found in either Aretha Franklin 1971 "Rock Steady" song or The Whispers' 1987 "Rock Steady" song. My guess is that the phrase "steady eddy eddy eddy" is based on the military cadence line "ready, ready, ready" line in some "Rock Steady" military cadences.

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Example #2: Rock Steady
Pancocojams Editor's note:
This video that was uploaded by markus gray on Jun 8, 2010 is no longer available, as of at least July 6, 2017. Here are the words to that version of this cheer which were posted by markus gray: owever, I'm

"Rock Steady"....you know!!!!

CHEER LYRICS (Example #2)
Squad: Rock (clap clap clap) steady (clap clap clap)
YES we rock, we rock, we rock steady
One person: So what's up girl?
Squad: Rock, (clap clap clap) steady (clap clap clap)
YES we rock, we rock, we rock steady
I said we like to rock.
We like to rock steady.
I said we like to rock.
We like to rock steady.
Hit it. Steddy eddy eddy eddy
Rock.
-posted by markus gray, Uploaded on Jun 8, 2010

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Example #3: PHS CHEERLEADERS Rock Steady



PHSExtraordinary, Uploaded on Nov 14, 2010

ROCK....STEADY......CAUSE YOUR TEAM......AINT EVEN READY!!!!! Lets go Rockets!!!!!! Varsity Cheerleaders

CHEER LYRICS (Example #3)
Rock, rock steady
Cause your team
Ain't even ready
To rock rock rock rock
Rock rock steady
Your team ain�t even ready
To rock rock rock rock
Rock rock steady
Cause our team is always ready
To rock rock rock rock.
-posted by PHSExtraordinary, Uploaded on Nov 14, 2010

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Example #4: Rocksteady cheer



Babydoll5432, Published on Jul 7, 2012
Na na looks crazy

CHEER LYRICS (Example #4)
Rock rock steady
The angels are ready
To rock rock rock rock
Steady eddy eddy eddy
Rock
[repeat multiple times]
-posted by Babydoll5432, Published on Jul 7, 2012

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Example #5: Dailey Tigers "Rock Steady"

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daileytigers, Published on Nov 17, 2012

CHEER LYRICS (Example #5)
Lead girl- Hey Tigers are you ready
Entire squad: Well get down and rock steady
Well Tigers are ready.
Well get down and rock steady.
Well Tigers are ready.
Well get down and rock steady.
[Do a body patting and foot stomping routine with a sideways body wave movement]

[Same Lead girl] �Rock steady! Ready. Okay.
[Entire squad]
We,
we
are
ready
To
rock rock rock rock
Steady eddy eddy

Rock, rock steady
Your team ain't even ready
To rock rock rock rock
Steady eddy eddy eddy
Rock steady
Your team ain't even ready
To rock rock rock rock
Steady eddy eddy eddy
Rock.
-posted by dailytigers, Published on Nov 17, 2012
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This transcription doesn't include a description of the squad's entire routine.

This cheerleading squad includes a great deal of foot stomping & body patting in its cheerleading routines.

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Example #6: BEN L. SMITH AND EASTERN GUILFORD CHEER OFF [Added June 6, 2013]



ORIGINALCHEERPHI, Uploaded on Feb 21, 2008

THE EAGLES LETTIN' THE WILDCASTS KNOW THEY AINT READY TO ROCK WITH THEM AT THE ULTIMATE CHEER & DANCE EXPERIENCE TRIAD HIGH SCHOOL CHEERLEADING COMPETITION 2007
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�Wildcasts� is probably a typo for �Wildcats�.
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Second cheer �rock steady� [.042-1:16]

CHEER LYRICS (Example #6)
Say what, what, what, what*
Your team ain't even ready.
We rock
Steady.
'Cause your team
Ain't even ready
To rock, rock, rock, rock
To rock
steady
'Cause your team
Ain't even ready
To rock, rock, rock, rock.
Your team ain't even ready
To ROCK.
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*I'm unsure of this transcription. The squad might be saying "We rock, rock, rock, rock."
O(

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ADDITIONAL EXAMPLES ADDED; July 6, 2017
Pancocojams Editor's Note: There are LOTS of examples of children (pre-teens and teens) performing "Rock Steady" cheers. Here are three other examples of these cheers. I've assigned numbers according to the order that I happened upon those examples on YouTube.

Example #7: ROCK STEADY CHEER by Newark Varsity Squad



Audrey Schaener, Published on Jan 24, 2017
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This high school cheerleading squad is performing "Rock Steady" in a stomp & shake style.

CHEER LYRICS (Example #7)
Rock
Steady
'Cause your team ain't even ready to
Rock, Rock, Rock, Rock Steady.
-Newark Varsity Squad cheer, transcribed from the video by Azizi Powell

I'm not sure where this high school is located.

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Example #8: Rock Steady Cheer


MCE Cheer Published on Apr 12, 2013

Candid practice videos from the beginning of the year.

McEvans Cheer
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This cheer beat reminds me of a slow down version of foot stomping cheers.

There is a McEvans High School in Shaw, Mississippi. I don't know if that is where the students featured in this video are from.

CHEER LYRICS (Example #8)
Rock
Whoo!
Rock Steady
Alright Alright
Rock Rock Rock
Whoo!
Rock steady

[add more foot stomping]

Rock
Rock steady
Rock Rock Rock
Rock steady
-McEvans High School cheerleaders, transcription by Azizi Powell from the video (additions and corrections are welcome)

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Example #9: NHS Rock Steady Cheer 10 4 13



Nottingham High School Video, Published on Oct 8, 2013
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I'm not sure where this school is located. Google search lists a Nottingham High School in Syracuse, New York and a Nottingham, High School in Hamilton Township, New Jersey.

CHEER LYRICS (Example #9)
Rock
Rock steady
Oh yeah!

[repeat this entire portion multiple times]

Rock, rock, rock, rock
Steady steady, steady, steady
'cause he's not even ready
Rock
[repeat entire cheer]
-Nottingham High School cheerleaders, transcription by Azizi Powell from the video (additions and corrections are welcome)

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Examples Of The Military Cadence "Seen An Old Lady Walkin' Down The Street"

Examples Of The Military Cadence "Seen An Old Lady Walkin' Down The Street"
Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases various text (word only) examples and YouTube sound files of the United States military cadence "Seen An Old Lady Walkin Down The Street" (or similar titles).

The examples of this military cadence that I have found online are from the following United State military branches (given in alphabetical order) - the Air Force, the Army, and the Marines.

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The content of this post is presented for folkloric, cultural, and motivational purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the original composer/s of this cadence and thanks to all those quoted in this post and all those who are featured in these sound files.

Thanks also to all those who have honorably served and who are honorably serving in the United States Marine Corps and in other branches of the United States military.

Please add to this collection by sharing the examples you know in the comment section. Remember, this is a family friendly cultural blog. Therefore, as per the policies of this blog, I don't accept comments/examples that include profanity fully spelled out or comments/examples that contain explicit sexual content.

Also, note that some military cadences include sexual references and curse words (profanity). As per the policy of this blog- I use amended spelling for curse words or indicated that "profanity is deleted".

Click the "military cadences" tag below for additional examples of United States military cadences.

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S COMMENTS
The United States military cadences that I've read or heard via YouTube use an "echo" call & response pattern. This call & response pattern is often found in African and African Diaspora vocal music. By "echo" call & response, I mean that the group (responders) repeat every line that the leader (caller) sings in exactly the same way that he (or she) sings those lines.

Some call & response cadences are composed of changeable rhyming and near rhyming couplets (two line rhyming or near rhyming verses) and a relatively fixed refrain (such as "lo right layo" ("left right left). The refrain may be sung at the beginning of the cadence, (and/or) at the end of the cadence, (and/or) after each rhyming or near rhyming couplet, or after a certain number of rhyming/or near rhyming couplets. But some call & response cadences have no fixed refrain, and only consists of the group exactly repeating each line that caller (leader) sings.

The examples of the "Seen [or "Saw"} An Old Lady Walkin Down The Street" that I have read or heard on YouTube have a series of rhyming or near rhyming couplets that constitute "verses". But these examples don't have any responding refrain (such as "Lo right layo").

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TEXT (WORDS ONLY) EXAMPLES OF "SEEN AN OLD LADY WALKIN' DOWN THE STREET
These examples are given in no particular order. Numbers are assigned for referencing purposes only.

I reformatted the lyrics in each of these examples to add a space after each rhyming/near rhyming couplet so that they would be more clearly seen. This doesn't mean that there is any space between how these lines are sung/chanted.

Text Example #1:
From http://www.army-cadence.com/saw-an-old-lady/

Old Lady (Marine Running Cadence)

I saw an old lady walkin� down the street.
She had a chute on her back, and jump boots on her feet.

I said, �Hey, Old Lady, where you goin� to?�
She said, �I�m goin� to the Army Airborne School.�

I said, �Hey, Old Lady, I think you�re too old;
You�d better leave that stuff to the brave and the bold.�

She said, �Listen, Sonny, I�m talking to you;
I�m an instructor at the Airborne School.�


I saw the same old lady walkin� down the street.
She had a pack on her back, jungle boots on her feet.

I said, �Hey, Old Lady, where you goin� to?�
She said, �I�m goin� to Marine Corps Recon School.�

I said, �Hey, Old Lady, I think you�re too old;
You�d better leave that stuff to the brave and the bold.�

She said, �Listen, Sonny, I�m talking to you;
I�m an instructor at the Recon School.�


I saw the old lady walkin� down the street.
She had a tank on her back, and fins on her feet.

I said, �Hey, Old Lady, where you goin� to?�
She said, �I�m goin to the Navy Diving School.�

I said, �Hey, Old Lady, I think you�re too old;
You�d better leave that stuff to the brave and the bold.�

She said, �Listen, Sonny, I�m talking to you;
I�m an instructor at the Diving School.�

I turned to leave, and she spun me around;
She kicked me in the head, and threw me to the ground.

I looked up through my tears, and with a voice full of fear,
I begged, �Please, Old Lady, don�t kill me right here.�

She said, �Listen, Sonny, don�t you mess with me;
I�m Airborne, Recon, and UDT!�

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Text Example #2: SAW AN OLD LADY [Army]
From http://www.radford.edu/content/chbs/home/rotc/cadets/creeds-cadences.html

Saw an old lady running down the street
Had a cute on her back, jump boots on her feet

Said, "Hey old lady where you goin' to?"
She said "US Army Airborne School"

"Whatcha gonno do when you get there?"
"Jump from a plane, float through the air"

I said "Hey old lady ain't you been told?
Airborne School's for the young and the bold"

She said "Hey young punk who you talkin' to?
I'm an instructor at the Airborne School"


Saw an old lady marching down the road
Had a knife in her hand and a 90lb load

Said, "Hey old lady where you goin' to?"
She said "US Army Ranger School"

"Whatcha gonna do when you get there?"
"Jump and swim and kill without care"

I said "Hey old lady ain't you been told?
Ranger School's for the young and the bold"

She said "Hey young punk who you talkin' to?
I'm an instructor at the Ranger School"

Saw on old lady running down the track
Had fins on her feet and a tank on her back

Said, "Hey old lady where you goin' to?"
She said "US Army scuba School"

"Whatcha gonno do when you get there?"
"Swim under water and never breathe air"

I said, "Hey old lady ain't you been told?
Scuba School's for the young and the bold"

She said "Hey young punk who you talkin' to?
I'm an instructor at the Scuba School"

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Text Example #3: Seen An Old Lady
From http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/cadence/running_cadence/seen-an-old-lady.shtml
Army Study Guide
Created by: PFC Deason

I Seen an old lady walkin down the street
She had a ruck on her back, jump boots on her feet.

I said hey old lady where you goin to
She said US Army Airborne school

I said hey old lady dont you think you're too old
You better leave that jumpin to the young and the bold

She said hey young punk who you talkin to
I'm a Jumpmaster from Airborne school.


Then I seen an old lady walkin down the street
She had ropes in her hand, jump boots on her feet.

I said hey old lady where you goin to
She sais US Army Air Assault school

I said hey old lady dont you think you're too old
You better leave that slidin to the young and the bold

She said hey young punk who you talkin to
I'm an instructor from Air Assault school


Then I seen an old lady walkin down the street
She had a tank on her back, and fins on her feet

I said hey old lady where you goin to
She said US Army scuba school

I said hey old lady dont you think you're too old
You better leave that divin to the young and the bold

She said hey young punk who you talkin to
I'm an instructor from scuba school
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Several additional examples of this cadence are found below.

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SHOWCASE SOUND FILES (WITH TRANSCRIPTIONS & SELECTED COMMENTS)
Sound File Example #1: SEEN AN OLD LADY CADENCE [Army]

Seen An Old Lady Cadence (With Lyrics)



letseewhathappens101, Uploaded on Feb 13, 2010

I have gotten many requests from people to email them a cadence so I have added a download link enjoy and thanks for watching.

This is the transcription that is given in the summary. Repeat every line, except the words �I said� or �she said� words.

Seen an old lady running down the street da
Had a ruck on her back, jump boots on her feet
I said, "Old lady where you goin' to?"
She said "US Army Airborne School"

I said "Hey old lady ain't you been told?
Airborne School's for the young and the bold"
She said "Hey young punk who you talkin' to?
I'm an instructor at the Airborne School"
�Cause I�m hard core
Lean and mean
Fit to fight
Rock
steady
Rollin
Ready
Seen an old lady walkin down the street da
She had a ruck on her back and jump boots on her feet.
I said, "Old lady where you goin' to?"
She said "US Army Ranger School."
I said �Hey old lady ain�t you been told?

The Ranger Schools for the young and the bold.�
She said "Hey young punk who you talkin' to?
I'm an instructor at the Ranger School"
�Cause I�m hard core
Lean and mean
Fit to fight
Rock
steady
Rollin
Ready
Ready
Easy

Seen an old woman walkin down the street da
She had tanks on her back and fins on her feet
I said, "Old lady where you goin' to?"
She said "US Army Scuba School"
I said, "Hey old lady ain't you been told?
Scuba School's for the strong and the bold"
She said "Hey young punk who you talkin' to?
I'm an instructor at the Scuba School"
�Cause I�m hard core
Lean and mean
Fit to fight
Rock
Steady
Rock
Steady
Rollin
Ready
�Cause I�m hardcore
Lean and* mean
Fit to fight
Lookin good
Ought to be
Hollywood
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The phrase "rock steady" is also found in some versions of the military cadence �Mama Told Sally Not To Go Downtown� (and probably some other cadences). That phrase is probably lifted either from Aretha Franklin's 1972 R&B record with that title or The Whispers' 1987 R&B record with that title. I think it's unlikely that the phrase "rock steady" is from the Jamaican "Rock Steady" music genre. That music genre came around 1966 after Ska and and before Reggae.

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Here are selected comments from this sound file's discussion thread (Numbers assigned for referencing purposes only.)
1. love, 2011
"what cd is this from?"

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2. letseewhathappens101, 2011
"@WhitneyDoll25 Its off a cadence CD i got while at Fort Knox called Modern Military Cadence."

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3.ConnahWeeden, 2013
"Why do you sing as you run? Wouldn't that stuff up your rythm?"

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4. Brody Zimmerman, 2013
"It helps you stay motivated and "singing a cadence while running or marching helps soldiers keep their heads up, take deeper breathes and exhale more forcefully. This increases oxygen to the lungs and gives the body more energy."

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5. kiridoodle, 2016
"ConnahWeeden quite the contrary, running and singing helps keep a steady pace and helps us get farther in the run. For people who get too caught up and worry about the running part, cadence helps them take their minds off it and focus on something else. (I'm not in the Army but my JROTC Raider team sings cadence when we run)"

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6. Bob Sergeant, 2013
"The second stanza is often sung thus:

Saw an old lady marching down the road
Had a knife in her hand and a 90 lb. load
Said, "Hey old lady, where you goin' to?"
She said, "US Army Ranger School"
Whatcha gonna do when you get there?
Jump, swim, and kill without a care
I said, "Hey old lady, ain't you been told?
Ranger School's for the brave and the bold."
She said, "Hey, now soldier, don't be a fool,
I'm an instructor at Ranger School!"

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Sound File Example #2: Saw An Old Lady Walkin' Down the Street (Air Force)



Hard Corp Cadences Published on Aug 26, 2015
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Here is my transcription of this cadence (with the group repeating each line that is given below)

Saw an old woman walkin down the street
She had a pack on her back and boots on her feet
I said, "Old lady where you goin' to?"
She said "US Air Force to the rescue"
I said, "Ah ha�
�Ah ha�
Ah ha
Ah ha

I said �Hey old lady don�t you think you�re too old?�
You better leave that stuff to the young and the bold.�
She said Hey air man who you talkin to
She said I�m an instructor at per rescues
She said Ah ha
Ah ha
Ah ha
Ah ha

I saw an old man walkin down the street
He had tanks on his back and fins on his feet
I said �Hey old man where you going to
He said US Air Force scuba school
He said Ah ha
Ah ha
Ah ha
Ah ha
Ah ha
Ah ha
Ah ha

Hey old man don�t you think you�re too old
You better leave that stuff to the young and the bold.�
He said Hey air man who you talkin to
He said I�m an instructor at Scuba school
He said Ah ha
Ah ha
Ah ha
Ah ha
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Here are selected comments from this sound file's discussion thread (Numbers assigned for referencing purposes only.)
1. rtscaptain, 2013
This is a running cadence for those asking. Hence sung at a double time pace.

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2. Vincent Palacios, 2016
"Is this a running cadence or walking, im pretty sure its running but im not completely sure, also what about the drive on cadence"

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3. Isaac Mabry, 2016
"(Double time)Running cadence"

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4. Hunter Hediger, 2016
"can be both, speed up for running, slow for marching.
drive on is marching"

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5. Theseus9, 2017
"In the entire time of 3 years in the Marine Corps infantry (3rd Bn. 8th Mar) I never heard this one,....then I went to 3rd Recon, and we didn't do cadence...we just did ruck runs silent."

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6. Don, 2017
"So, would you say that in general, Recon depended less on motivational devices like cadence and depended more on sheer will and hard discipline? Please do elaborate, I'm curious as to what separates Recon from the rest, mentally."

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10. Theseus9, 2017
"+Don Well, I personally liked singing cadence when I was in the infantry, not necessarily did it motivate me, but it actually helps your breathing. Recon in a way is more individual, yes you have camaraderie and work in a team, but as for motivation it's a personal desire to be where you are and to get the mission done."

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11. Don, 2017
"+Theseus9 Interesting. Yes I've figured cadence could be useful for breathing and shouting while on the move in combat, that's why even as nonmilitary I sing them. They are pleasing as well. Thanks for the response, it is fascinating stuff. Seems almost as if Recon and other elite groups are so overpowered through sheer iron will that they need no outer motivation. Quite the role models you guys make."

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12. CyberManiac, 2017
"Did lyrics just like this, just added in CCT (Special Operations Training) and left it AHHA!"

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Examples Of The United States Military Cadence "Mama Told Sally Not To Go Downtown"

Examples Of The United States Military Cadence "Mama Told Sally Not To Go Downtown"
Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases various text (word only) and YouTube sound files of the United States military cadence "Mama Told Sally Not To Go Downtown".

It's my guess that these cadences are variant forms of the military cadence "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown."

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2014/05/mamma-told-johnny-not-to-go-downtown.html for a pancocojams post that showcases a text (word only) example and a video of the "standard" lyrics for the Marine Corps' cadence "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown".

Also, click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/05/msgt-mccants-usmc-ret-version-of.html for information and comments about as well as a text example and sound file of a variant form of "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown" that was written and recorded by Master Sergeant McCants, United States Marine Corps, retired.

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The content of this post is presented for folkloric, cultural, and motivational purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the original composer/s of the "Mama Told Sally Not To Go Downtown" and thanks also to all those who are featured in these sound files and all those who are quoted in this post .

Thanks to all those who have honorably served and who are honorably serving in the United States Marine Corps and in other branches of the United States military.

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Note that United States military cadences are also known as "jodies". Most of the examples of "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown" that I've read online are from the US Marine Corps. I've also read an example of this cadence from the US Army.

Click the "military cadences" tag below for additional examples of United States military cadences.

Please add to this collection by sharing the examples you know in the comment section. Remember, this is a family friendly cultural blog. Therefore, as per the policies of this blog, I don't accept comments/examples that include profanity fully spelled out or comments/examples that contain explicit sexual content.

Also, note that some military cadences include sexual references and curse words (profanity). As per the policy of this blog- I use amended spelling for curse words or indicated that "profanity is deleted".

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GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE MILITARY CADENCE "MAMA TOLD SALLY NOT TO GO DOWNTOWN"
The United States military cadence ("jody") "Mama Told Sally Not To Go Downtown" is a running cadence. This cadence is probably a variant form of the United States military cadence "Mama Told Johnny Not to Go Downtown."

Both "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown" and "Mama Told Sally Not To Go Downtown" begin with the same words, except for the difference in the gender name.

Johnny's mother tells him not to go downtown because the (insert the name of the military branch) recruiter is in town. He disobeys his mother, joins that military branch, and becomes a member of that armed service. At the end of the cadence Johnny's mother is told that he died with honor, saving other members who he fought along side of.

Sally's mother also tells her not to go downtown because there are too many members of [insert the name of that specific military branch]. Sally goes downtown anyway and connects up with at least one member of that armed service. Sally returns home, but finds out she is pregnant. This cadence often ends with Sally giving birth to a baby who comes out "swingin a chain" or "swingin on a chain". But other versions of this cadence end with the chanters listing accolades to their particular military branch.

To date, I've found examples of "Mama Told Sally Not To Go Downtown" that are attributed to these United States military branches (given in alphabetical order) - United States Air Force, United States Army, and United States Marines.

The YouTube recordings that I've heard of "Mama Told Sally Not To Go Downtown" sound very similar to me to the song "Hambone" ("Hambone Hambone, where you been?"*. The tempo is usually moderate, and the lyrics are relatively consistent.

*In contrast, I think that the recordings that I've heard of the standard version of "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown" sound somewhat like a slower version of the chorus of another folk song- "Old Dan Tucker".

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SOME TEXT EXAMPLES OF THE MILITARY CADENCE "MAMA TOLD SALLY NOT TO GO DOWNTOWN"
These examples are given in no particular order. Numbers are assigned for referencing purposes only.
These examples were retrieved on May 29, 2017. The titles are given in capital letters to distinguish them from the example's text.

Note: Cadences are call & response compositions. The group response by repeating the exact same thing that the "caller" says.

Disclaimer: This is not meant to be a comprehensive listing of examples of this cadence.

Text Example #1:
From https://www.vetfriends.com/cadences/

DOWN TOWN CADENCE
Mama told sally not to go downtown,
Bunch of Airman hanging around.
Sally didnt listen and she went anyway,
Didnt come home till the very next day.
2 weeks later and she was doing well,
3 months later and she began to swell.
9 months later and out it came,
Bald headed airman swinging from a chain."

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Text Example #2
From http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/cadence/running_cadence/sally.shtml

SALLY

Created by: SGT LARRY HOWARD

MAMMA TOLD SALLY NOT TO GO DOWN TOWN,
THEIR WERE TO MANY(YOUR PLT.OR COMPANY NAME)HANGIN AROUND,
SALLY PAID HER MIND* AND WENT ANYWAY,
DIDN'T COME HOME TILL THE VERY NEXT DAY,
3 MONTHS LATER ALL WAS WELL,
6 MONTHS LATER SHE BEGAN TO SWELL,
9 MONTHS LATER OUT IT CAME,
A BALD HEADED(CALL A SOLDIER'S NAME,I.E SGT HOWARD)SWINGIN A CHAIN,
HE WAS HARDCORE,
LEAN AND MEAN,
SLIM AND TRIM,
ROUGH AND TOUGH,
A FIGHTIN MACHINE.
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*My guess is that the word "no" is missing from this line, and that line should read "Sally paid her no mind� [i.e. she didn�t listen to her]

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Text Example #3, #4, and #5 (partial example)
From http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/sally-cadence-t853.html

March 5th, 2004
dragon_master_gunner

Text Example #3 - SALLY CADENCE
info (my personal favorite version):

Mamma told Sally not to go Downtown;
Too many Tanker's hangin' around;
Sally got the a** and she went anyway;
Wore a little skirt, and she had to play;
Three months later, all is well;
Six months later she began to swell;
Nine months later, out it came:
A mad-dog-baby-tanker swingin' a chain!

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Text Example #4

September 21st, 2004
03USMC

Oh come on now ya know no tread head got Sally.

SALLY CADENCE

Momma told Sally
Not to go down town.

To many Jarheads
hangin around.

That little girl
she disobeyed.

She went out
and got herself laid.

3 months later
all is well.

6 months later
beginin to swell.


That little girl
she disobeyed.

She went out
and got herself laid.

3 months later
all is well.

6 months later
beginin to swell.

9 months later
out it came.

A little baby Jarhead
swingin a chain.

singin

Skiborne Trooper
Paratrooper
Jungle Fighter
Scuba diver
Life of Danger
Recon Jarhead

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Text Example #5
October 1st, 2004
kwinter74

"So many versions! lol.

I learned it like this:

9 months later
What a beautiful sight.

A little baby Ranger
ready to fight."
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definition of "jarhead"
From https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jarhead
"A member of the United States Marine Corps. When used by civilians it could be considered derogatory, but it is used often among Marines.

The term originates from the "high and tight" haircut that many Marines have, which makes their head look like a jar. It did NOT originate from their uniform or cover.
"Oorah jarhead, semper fi!"
#marine#jar head#usmc#marines#marine corps
by Jay November 04, 2005

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definition of "treadhead" (in this cadence)
From https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=treadhead
[This is one of several different definitions of that term on that page]
"A person who is fond of or has a fascination with armored fighting vehicles.
Joe went crazy at the Imperial armor museum when he saw the German tanks. He's such a treadhead.
#tankhead#militaria#hoplophobe#tredhed#tread-head
by jmt_tx May 14, 2009

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Text Example #6
From https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fsX3lHqBHPIJ:www.armyparatrooper.org/dropzone/showthread.php/3823-Favorite-Cadence/page2+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Favorite Cadences, page 2
02-24-2009,
Stryker15-31
Originally Posted by RedFalcon

MOMMA TOLD SALLY

Momma told Sally not to go downtown
Too many Paratroopers hangin' around
Sally got the ass and she went anyway
Wearing stilleto heels and a neglige

Three months later, all was well
Six months later she began to swell
Nine months later - out it came
It was a little pararooper just a'swingin' a chain.
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No title was given for this example. I therefore used the first three words of the first line as the title.

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Text Example #7
From http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/cadence/running_cadence/momma-told-sally.shtml
Army Study Guide

MOMMA TOLD SALLY

Created by: rick weaver

Momma told told Sally not to go downtown,
Too many Crewchiefs hangin' around.
Sally got the ass and she went anyway,
She didn't come home till late the next day.

Three months later, all was well,
Six months later, she began to swell,
Nine months later, out it came,
It was a bald headed Crewchief swingin' a chain.

Singin', "I'm Hardcore"
Motivated.

Dedicated.

Combat.

Ready.

Rollin'.

Steady.

We got the right, the right to rock steady,
We got to the right to roll when we're ready.
But when the time comes I got to be ready,
Willin and able to rock steady.
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The phrase "rock steady" is also found in some versions of the military cadence "Seen an old woman walkin down the street" (and probably some other cadences). That phrase is probably borrowed from either Aretha Franklin's 1972 R&B record, or The Whispers' 1987 R&B record and not its Jamaican usage, where "Rock Steady" was a music genre (around 1966) that came after Ska and came before Reggae.)

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SHOWCASE EXAMPLES (Sound files)
Example #1: Air Force Cadence - Mama told Sally not to go downtown



Spencer Koerner Published on Aug 22, 2012

Another of my favorite USAF running cadences
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Here's my transcription of this sound file.

For all the cadence transcriptions on this page, the group repeats the exact same words that the "caller" says, the exact same way he says them.

Momma told Sally not to go downtown
She said too many Air men hangin' around
Sally didn't listen so she went anyway
Didn't come home till the very next day

Three months later, all was well
Four months later she began to swell
Nine months later and out it came
A bald little Air man swingin' on a chain.

Le righty layo
Lo righty layo
Le righty layo
Cruisin all the time.

That tune ends and the leader/group chants
Air Force!
Air Force!
Air Force!
Number One!
Second to none!
Standin tall!
Lookin good
We oughta be
Hollywood.
Hollywood.
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"Lookin good/Oughta be/Hollywood" are floating lyrics that I've found online (as of this date) in one other cadence � a version of �Saw An Old Lady Walkin Down The Street". "Outghta be Hollywood" = [I] ought be [in] Hollywood. "Hollywood" (California) is the motion picture capital of the United States. This self-boasting statement means that the man believes that he's so handsome that he should be a Hollywood actor (star).
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Example #2: Mama Told Sally Not To Go Downtown (Air Force)



Hard Corp Cadences Published on Aug 26, 2015
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These lyrics are the same as those given in Example #1 except that this version uses the line "Two weeks later and all was well" instead of "three months later and all was well".

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Example #3: Mama Told Sally Not to Go Downtown



The U.S Army Special Forces - Topic, Published on Sep 24, 2016

Momma told Sally not to go downtown
Too many Paratroopers hangin' around
Sally went down anyway
All she wore was a neglige

Three months later she began to swell
Six months later you could really tell
Nine months later - out it came
A little pararooper swingin' a chain.

Four months later she began to swell
Nine months later and out it came
A bald little Air man swingin' on a chain.

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MSgt McCants (USMC Ret) Version Of The Running Cadence "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown"

MSgt McCants (USMC Ret) Version Of The Running Cadence "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown"
Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases a variant form of the United States military cadence "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown". This example is credited to Master Sergeant McCants United States Marine Corps (USMC) Retired. MSgt McCants is also known on YouTube as "TheScribe114".

This post showcases a YouTube sound file of this United States Marine Corp cadence that includes the cadence's lyrics in its summary. This post also includes selected comments from this sound file's discussion thread

The content of this post is presented for folkloric, cultural, and motivational purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the original composer/s of the "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown" cadence and thanks to Master Sergeant McCants for this version of that cadence. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.

Thanks to all those who have honorably served and who are honorably serving in the United States Marine Corps and in other branches of the United States military.

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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2014/05/mamma-told-johnny-not-to-go-downtown.html for a pancocojams post that showcases a text (word only) example and a video of the "standard" lyrics for the Marine Corps' cadence "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown".

Also, click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/05/examples-of-united-states-military_30.html for a pancocojams post that showcases several examples of the related cadence "Mama Told Sally Not To Go Downtown". My guess is that that cadence began as a variant form of "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown".

Note that United States military cadences are also known as "jodies". Most of the examples of "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown" that I've read online are from the US Marine Corps. I've also read an example of this cadence from the US Army.

Also, note that some military cadences include sexual references and curse words (profanity). As per the policy of this blog- I use amended spelling for curse words or indicated that "profanity is deleted" (except for the words "damn" and "damned").

Click the "military cadences" tag below for additional examples of United States military cadences.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO & LYRICS - Marine Corps running cadence with lyrics



Danny Brandt, Published on Dec 14, 2013
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**Lyrics below** (might be spelled wrong, or interpreted wrong. I apologize if it is). Originally done by TheScribe114 on YouTube, go check him out

lo right, a lo righty a lay o
lo right, a lefty righty a lo
lo right, a lo righty a lay o
lo right, a lefty righty a lay lo

Momma told Johnny not to go down town
Marine Corps recruiter was hanging around

Suzy told Johnny go serve your nation
take a cab down to the MEPS station

lo right, a lo righty a lay o
lo right, a lo righty a lay o

Momma told Johnny not to go down town
Marine Corps recruiter was hanging around

Suzy's in the bedroom, Jodie's at the window
Johnny's got his bags and he's ready to go

put Johnny on a greyhound bus
then there came the bends and thrusts

Drill Instructors trained him rough and hard
They taught him to fight, they taught him to march

lo right, a lo righty a lay o
lo right, a lo righty a lay o

Momma told Johnny not to go down town
Marine Corps recruiter was hanging around

it was short but long it seemed
Johnny had earned the title Marine

Johnny survived like all the rest
Johnny got popped on a urine analysis

Johnny thought he was one in a million
a urine sample made him a civilian

lo right, a lo righty a lay o
lo right, a lo righty a lay o

Momma Told Johnny not to go downtown
Marine Corps recruiter was hanging around...

I had a pig and his name was Sam
Sunday he was bacon, on Monday he was ham

Grinding my Ka-bar in the barn
While my donkey runs the farm

Got a steer and his name was Jake
Tuesday he was burgers on Wednesday he was steak

Grinding my ka-bar in the barn
while my donkey runs the farm

bare with me 'cause this may sound sick
Gotta strip out some baby chicks

Me and my donkey gonna take a little trip
The Colonel's in need of some Crispy strips

lo righty lo righty lo righty lo
lefty right a lo, here we go

Got two roosters named larry and Lee
One's going to Church's the other KFC

Grinding my ka-bar in the barn
While my donkey runs the farm

Got some lamb and a couple of sheep
Gotta have gyros and mutton ain't cheap

I still grind my ax in the barn
while my donkey runs the farm

lo righty lo righty lo righty lo
lefty righty lo, righty lo, righty lo

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S COMMENTS ABOUT MILITARY CADENCES
[Revised May 30, 2017]

The United States military cadences that I've read or heard via YouTube use an "echo" call & response pattern. This call & response pattern is often found in African and African Diaspora vocal music. By "echo" call & response, I mean that the group (responders) repeat every line that the leader (caller) sings in exactly the same way that he (or she) sings those lines.

Some call & response cadences are composed of changeable rhyming and near rhyming couplets (two line rhyming or near rhyming verses) and a relatively fixed refrain (such as "lo right layo" ("left right left). The refrain may be sung at the beginning of the cadence, (and/or) at the end of the cadence, (and/or) after each rhyming or near rhyming couplet, or after a certain number of rhyming/or near rhyming couplets. But some call & response cadences have no fixed refrain, and only consists of the group exactly repeating each line that caller (leader) sings.

In this variant form of "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown" these rhyming verses are made up of two, three, four, or six separate couplets that are given together and sung before the cadence's relatively fixed refrain. The refrain for this version of "Mama Told Johnny No To Go Downtown" is "lo righty lo righty lo righty lo lefty righty lo, righty lo, righty lo" ("Lo righty layo"= "left, right, left"). Also, notice that some of these couplets in this version of "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown" don't necessarily have anything to do with being in the Marines.

The lyrics to this cadence that are written in this YouTube sound file's summary don't include a space between each couplet. I reformatted these lyrics to add a space after each rhyming/near rhyming couplet so that they would be more clearly seen. This doesn't mean that there is any space between how these lines are sung/chanted.

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SELECTED COMMENTS
These comments are from the discussion thread for the sound file that is given above. They are given in chronological order except for replies, with the oldest comment given first. I've added numbers for referencing purposes only.

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1. TheScribe114
"Well I'll be damned.......that's me!

Wrote this back in 1988 in Okinawa at 9th MTBN.

ENJOY!!! MSgt McCants USMC Ret.?"
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For the historical record, I'll note that the photograph that is given with TheScribe144's comment is of a Black man.

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1. iXads Official
"Oorah, Master Sergeant. Oorah!?"
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oorah_(Marines)
"Oohrah is a battle cry common in the United States Marine Corps since the mid-20th century. The term means "charge." It is comparable to hooah in the US Army and the US Air Force, and hooyah in the US Navy and US Coast Guard. It is most commonly used to respond to a verbal greeting or as an expression of motivation."

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2016
Reply
3. Michael Gibbs
"+TheScribe114 were you running when you did this or were you in a studio or something? dumb question?"

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4. TheScribe114
"Studio, no one is going to follow us for 4-5 miles with a tape recorder."

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5. Paul Tayag
"+TheScribe114 that's one hell of a cadence song, thanks for writing it and Semper Fidelis!?"

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6. James White
"+TheScribe114 Early Discharge QUITE Honorably in Dec. '87, so We most likely chewed a lot of the same dirt, way back then, but BROTHER, I AM F&&KIN* LOVING THIS. SEMPER FI, I will be, With Your Permission, learn and tweak this for My Runners. eight , wanting to be back in shape blue-collar Ass-kickers from way back when, half are USMC BROTHERS, the rest are all Veterans. Oath-Keepers All, we call Ourselves the Retreads. Ready to go . At the drop of a Cover. OOOHRAH !?"
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*This word was fully spelled out in this comment.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semper_fidelis
"Semper fidelis is a Latin phrase that means "always faithful" or "always loyal". It is the motto of the United States Marine Corps usually shortened to Semper fi. It is also in use as a motto for towns, families, schools, and military units."...

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7. MisterTofu
"+TheScribe114 Was the singer you? Or are you just the writer?"

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8. TheScribe114
"BOTH"

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9. shadowtailsthewarrior, 2017
"well sir, you did very well with this one. thank you for this cadence and your service"

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[This comment was written in reply to a comment that criticized this CD for being fake because it was done in a studio. In particular, the person who wrote that critical comment took issue with the stomping sounds in the background of this tape.]

10. ocdarjar gm, 2016
...this is a Mst Srgt, the sounds in the back are from 4 Marines stomping their boots, it was made in Japan for a new cadence contest in 1985 ...
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*As per the policy of this blog, I deleted profanity from the beginning and the end of this comment.

"Mst Srgt" = Master Sergeant

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shadowstranger100, 2016
11. "This is gonna be my jogging song. Keeps you motivated and takes your mind of fatigue.
Imma sing the cadence out loud i dont give a dam if im the only one jogging?"

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[The following sub-section of comments refer to the meanings of some of the lines in this cadence, particularly to the lines about farm animals and/or "popping on a urine analysis".]

12. Julian Hess
"Can you tell me master Sgt. what was the backround on why you chose to say the last part with the "I had a pig and his name was sam"? was that supposed to be about the marine on what he did after he was dishonorable discharge or was it random??

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13. Zach Reaves
"im confused at the end about the kbar and barn part, can somone please explain the meaning behind it, also thank you for your service sir and lastly oorah, war on baby"

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14. Reece Dignan
"Zach Reaves
Either he is referring to spending a bit of time with Pam and her Five sisters.
Or
He's referring to the USMC standard knife/bayonet and how he's grinding (sharpening it) and you see can see what he dose with it."
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from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka-Bar
"Ka-Bar (trademarked as KA-BAR) is the contemporary popular name for the combat knife first adopted by the United States Marine Corps in November 1942 as the 1219C2 combat knife (later designated the USMC Mark 2 combat knife or Knife, Fighting Utility), and subsequently adopted by the United States Navy as the U.S. Navy utility knife, Mark 2."...
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It's highly likely that "ka-bar" in this military cadence (also) has a sexualized meaning.

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15. Polaris F18
"Why did you say "the colonel is in need of some crispy strips"?"

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16. Jovan Gorgievski
"It's from a joke A Rooster walks on a street and he saw whole chickens being grilled. And he said wow girls you are striped and getting some ten in solarium."
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The word "grilled" here means "being cooked on a grill".

The word "ten" is probably a typo for "tan".

Notice that "Colonel" is both a military rank and a referent for "Colonel Sanders", the fictional character who is associated with the national American [and international] fast food chain "KFC" (Kentucky Fried Chicken).

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17. Kryptic Panda
"I believe that by the line "I had a pig and his name was Sam" and the follow up line showing how the Marines themselves can be versatile. Of course by "grinding my Ka-Bar in the barn", he is sharpening his Ka-Bar, which is the traditional USMC Combat Knife. By "while my donkey runs the farm" he is referring to those POGs whom run the Marine Corps, but with the grunts doing the majority of it. Same thing when he mentions the Steer (a castrated cow) and the line afterwards, meaning the Marines can practically be anywhere at a moments notice. Again, with the mention of the Ka-Bar, he implies that he is going to "ship out" some more Marines from boot camp, to bring the Colonel back some 'chicken' (enemies). Finally, with the roosters I presume he means that one will pass, and another will fail. With the lamb and the sheep part he could possibly be talking about the goat/sheep farmers in the middle east"
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This commenter and several others provided literal explanations for some of the "farm" verses in this post. However, I believe that these verses aren't necessarily intended to be taken literally or the words may have a literal meaning or more than one literal meaning and, simultaneously, sexual meaning/s. For instance, a reference to a rooster in a military cadence is likely to be a coded referent to a vernacular term for a male's body part.

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18. John Valenti
"Johnny got popped on a urine analysis
Johnny thought he was one in a million
can someone explain this part?"

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19. Noah
"In any branch of the Military (International) you get tested for drugs, and he thought he wouldn't get found after he had drugs."

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20. Ricochet Gaming
"Marijuana."

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21. Hero Clan
"He failed his drug test and only a few are built to be Marines hence the "one in a million"?"

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22. Scali Bread
"Before bootcamp you take a drug test and they don't tell you your results until the end of bootcamp so if you tested positive for any drugs they will discharge you at the end of bootcamp, so it would be basically 13 weeks of hell for nothing..."

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23. Greg Andris
"They'll kick you out before any training occurs, they piss test everyone the first 2 days of boot camp and results are within days. They're not gonna waste time and money and knowledge on a drug pop. The one and only place its acceptable to pop on a piss test is at the recruiting station before going into MEPS or poole training."

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24. Colonel Teehee, 2017
"Moral of the story, don't do drugs..."

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25. BIlly the SMall Bong thorton from india
"first time we ran this in basic. i started laughing so damn hard when the instructor screamed "johnny got popped on a urine test" then we had to all stop while still laughing did 100 push ups. yeah for the next 48 hours i was forced to march while singing that till i stopped laughing at the part. still one of the best times i had while in the corp."?
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I wonder whether the word "popped" in "popped a urine analysis" (drug test) has anything to do with the term "pop quiz", meaning a quiz that a teacher "pops" (surprises) her or his students with (without any forewarning.
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26. 2027850
"Far cry from the cadences my platoon chanted They are historical considering the times, and NOT politically correct:...
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This comment concluded with a bawdy (dirty) cadence example.

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27. Seth de Jesus
"Best variation of momma told johnny not to go downtown I've ever heard, hands down."

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[This next comment is written in response to a commenter who wrote that singing this cadence helped him take his mind off of the pain of running and helped him run farther than he thought he could.]

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28. Thomas Kerekes
"shadowstranger100 you are absolutely correct. I was never able to do 2 and a half miles without stopping and yesterday I didnt even realize but I did close to 3 miles without stopping because of this cadence. This is the best cadence from all the branches so far"

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29. James B
"shadowstranger100 actually.....ANY cadence can do it.....but TY so much for choosing a USMC cadence.
That's the psychology of cadence's....you have nailed it....they take your mind off the fatigue & pain"

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30. David L
"James B Yes, same as the songs slaves sang in the fields. The rhythmic sound not only keeps you in rhythm, regulates breathing and keeps your mind of the pain. Seeing how the first cadence was by a black soldier just trying to lift the soldiers spirits as they were on a long march. The leaders saw how everyone went from dragging to snapping their step and keeping time. So the Duckworth Chant was born and incorporated into every branches marches. With slight variations. Thank you Pvt. Duckworth for your contribution."

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31. Jim Porter
"+David L, actually between the slaves in the fields and the black soldiers, there were the black railroad workers who maintained, straightened, and laid replacement track. Because the work was brutal even for strong men, the bosses learned, as their field boss counterparts before them, that they could keep the work going better by the use of cadence songs. The boss would sing, then use words like OOh, AHH. On the catch words Ooh, Ahh, the workers would make the necessary moves, usually straightening the tracks. So it was something like, "Sally, sally, don't you know? I can make your belly grow. Ooh! Ahh1." It just made for a break in the monotony of the work, and a little humor to keep the track workers' morale going."

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32. deadhead686
"They were called gandy dancers, they had to be in rythem to lay the railroad tracks properly."

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33. the sniper on the hill
"TheScribe114 I found u in a di cadence calling contest in San Diego"

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34. Linda Olivarez
"the song may be old but is still in the marine cadence songs"
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I don't know if this comment refers to the "Mama Told Johnny Not To Go Downtown" cadence in general, or to this specific version of that cadence.

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35. Peter Asterino
"still sounds good 64 yrs after I left PI. Jarhead 1953"
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"Jarhead" is an acceptable colloquial referent for a Marine.

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36. American Hunter
"TheScribe114 I am a Staff Sergeant in the Army getting ready to be a Sergeant First Class, great cadence. Motivating. If you do not mind I am going to adopt it for my soldiers. Of course with changes"

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