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"Candy Girl" - R&B Record, Hand Clap Rhyme, & Foot Stomping Cheer (with an excerpt from Kyra D. Gaunt's Book "The Games Black Girls Play")

"Candy Girl" - R&B Record, Hand Clap Rhyme, & Foot Stomping Cheer (with an excerpt from Kyra D. Gaunt's Book "The Games Black Girls Play")
Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases the R&B record "Candy Girl". This post also presents an excerpt from Kyra D. Gaunt's 2006 book The Games Black Girl's Play: Learning The Ropes From Double-Dutch To Hip-Hop that discusses discusses the concept of "bridge" hand clap rhymes and focuses on a 1990s hand clap version of New Edition's 1983 R&B song "Candy Girl" as an example of Black girls cultural expression.

Text (word only) examples of three "Candy Girls" foot stomping cheers are also included in this post.

The content of this post is presented for folkloric, recreational, cultural, and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the composers and performers of the R&B song "Candy Girl". Thanks also to Kyra D. Gaunt for her research and writing about Black girls musical expressions and thanks to all the contributors of rhyme examples and all those who are quoted in this post.

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INFORMATION ABOUT THE SONG "CANDY GIRL" & SONG LYRICS
�Candy Girl� was the first single New Edition released in 1983 from their debut album of the same name. The song was recorded in 1982 after the group was given studio time by producer Maurice Starr following a second-place finish in a Boston talent show. The members of New Edition were between the ages of 13-15 when this song was recorded. The single was released on February 24, 1983, and while it only peaked at #46 on the Billboard Hot 100, it hit #1 on both the R&B Singles chart and the UK Singles chart.

Lyrically, New Edition describes their girls as being �sweet as candy� and this song�s style was inspired by the 1970 hit �ABC� by The Jackson 5.

[LYRICS- CANDY GIRL]

[Ralph Tresvant rapping]
My girl's like candy, a candy treat
She knocks me high up off my feet
She's so fine, as can be
I know this girl is meant for me

[Ralph singing]
Candy girl...
You are my world
When you're with me
You brighten up my day

All I know
When I'm with you
You make me feel so good, through and through
The way you walk, and the way you talk
You always look so good, you make forget my thoughts

[Ricky Bell]
Do you really love me?
Don't you really care?
Do you really need me
And will you always be there?

[Ralph]
Every night and every day
I'm always thinking of you in every way
All I know
When I'm with you
You make me feel so good
Through and through

Candy girl, you are my world
[RB] You're everything, everything, everything to me

[RT] Candy girl, all I want to say
[Bobby Brown] I need your love, each and everyday!

[Ralph talking]
Hey fellas! (What?)
Check out Mike and Bobby's little lady!
(ooooh-weeeee!)

[Michael Bivins]
Well, check out Ricky and Ralph's!
(oooooh-weeee!)

[Bobby]
What about Ronnie's!

[Ronnie DeVoe]
She's bad, I know she's bad!

[Michael]
She walks so fast, she looks so sweet
She makes my heart just skip a beat

[Bobby]
My girl's the best and that's no lie
She tells me that I'm her only guy!

[Ricky]
That might be true, but my girl's a joy
She don't play around, she's right to the point!

[Ralph rapping]
My girl's like candy, a candy treat
She knocks me high up off my feet

[Ralph singing]
Oh, candy
You look so sweet

Oh, candy!
You're a special treat

[Break]

[RT] Candy girl, you are my world
[B] I need your love, each and everyday

[RT] Candy girl, all I want to say
[RB] You're everything, everything, everything to me

[RT] Candy girl, you are my world
[B] I need your love, each and everyday

[RT] Candy girl, all I want to say
[RB] You're everything, everything, everything to me

[RT] Candy girl...
[B] I need it, need it, need it, need it, need it everyday!

[RT] Candy girl..."


Source: https://genius.com/New-edition-candy-girl-lyrics
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"Candy Girl" was written by Maurice Starr. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy_Girl_(New_Edition_song)

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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Candy Girl official video New Edition 1983



dakwa4life, Published on Mar 19, 2009

Official Video (1983)

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BOOK EXCERPT
From The Games Black Girl's Play: Learning The Ropes From Double-Dutch To Hip-Hop by Kyra D. Gaunt (New York University Press), 2006; chapter: "Mary Mack Dressed In Black: The Earliest Formation Of A Popular Music", sub-title "Hand Clap Games"

[page 68]
"The lyrics of the musical games black girls play circulate between the dominant three types of play found in girls' games. For example, the lyric and melody of "Mary Mack" occur as a handclapping game-song and as a jump rope chant.
Additionally, these same lyrics and melodies operate within a wider musical system that includes the blues and other types of popular music typically associated with adults.

The partner style of handclapping, with only two girls, gradually expands o a type of handclapping game known as "bridges". The most popularly known handclapping bridge is "Tweedle deedle dee", based on the melody and lyrics of "Rockin Robin," Michael Jackson's first single as a solo artists, and his first departure in 1971, from the Jackson Five on Motown Records.

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[page 72]
The author describes African American girls performing rhymes that they knew for a new television program in Boston, Mass. (October 18, 1999)
..."Lights, camera, action!" The girls began chanting the lyrics and melody of the opening lines of "Candy Girl". I recognized the song immediately and was titillated at discovering a game-song that showed a relationship between recent popular music culture and the ongoing tradition of creating girls games from it as a resource.

The girls patted hand with the girl to either side of them, creating an alternating current of contact around the circle. I was witnessing one of the latest bridges based on the early 1980s "bubblegum soul" of the

[page 73]
group New Edition. The game would have preceded these eight-and nine-year-old girls by ten years: they were born in 1991 and 1992. ("Candy Girl" was New Edition's first single hit, and it became the title of their first album releasd in 1983.)

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The girls' handclapping, bridge version of "Candy Girl" highlighted the borrowing of popular dances from the recent past: i featured the Jamaican Pepperseed, marked by the alternating movements of the torso from left to right on one two three and (hold) four / one two three and (hold) four. With arms spread out to the side, the movements of the torso on one two three and (hold) four transferred wavy currents of motion from one arm to the other, causing the arms to look and feel like they were treading water. Th game featured the late 1980s dance the Running Man, popularized by bad boy Bobby Brown of New Edition. This dance involved the funky locomotion of lunging forward on alternate feet while thrusting your chest out and pulling your fists back by your sides. The dance was all about subdivided timing of strides marking the offbeats between one and two and three and four, while your feet executed a sliding action and a slight scuffling sound after each forward lunge, emulating a running man (or woman).

I recognized one other dance within the formula of "Candy Girl": the "Fight" from the early 1980s, which accompanied a chant about Mike Tyson. It involved mimicking a flurry of jabs, hooks, and punches times to the downbeats of the music, and I often deployed it when I was on the dance floor at a club or party with a guy who was getting toofriendly-too close for comfort. (These were the guys that wanted to turn even a fast song into an intimate slow dance or grind.)

[page 74]

The girls had fit these three dances, and others, into the kinetic orality accompanying the lyrics. They repeated the game-song for the cameras.
Can-dy Girl/You are my world
Look-so sweet/ Spe-cial treat

Following this was a section of show-and-tell, an embodied call-and-response of a sort, where the conjunction between word and the body, between individuals and the collective, became apparent. As they sand of doing the Janet Jackson, they danced the Pepperseed. As they sang of doing the Mike Tyson, the did the Fight. As they sang of doing the Bobby Brown, they did the Running Man.

This is the way you do - the Janet // Jackson ["Pepperseed"]
This is the way you do - the Mike // Tyson ["the Fight"]
This is the way you do - the Bobby // Brown ["the Running Man"]

Calling out the names of prominent African American stars that they would have been familiar with as popular icons in the media, the girls dramatized a salient feature of these figures' personas, or image, through kinetic orality. One could assert that the girls were performing the communal discourse, as well as a musical grapevine of blackness, through the body and their in-body formulas.

Traditional African American children's games revolve around dance, and its influence can be seen in almost all physical activities. Song and dance are an integral part of storytelling, for example. Cheerleading becomes dance, double-dutch jumping becomes dance, and so do the agile exertions of athletes from the end-zone to the hoop. Play serves as the training for performance. Through interaction, we learn fair play. That is, we learn the ethics of a culture and we learn to identify good play, which is similar to learning how to recognize good performance, The determining factors have to do with personal creativity, styling, and aesthetics. Thus, play becomes performance (Malone 1996 in Caponi 1999, 226"."

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THREE FOOT STOMPING CHEER EXAMPLES OF "CANDY GIRL"
CANDY GIRL
All: Candy Girl.
All my world.
Look so sweet.
Special treat.
Soloist #1: This is the way we do the Bounce.
Candy Girl.
Group: Do the Bounce. Do the Bounce.
Soloist #1: All my world.
Group: Do the Bounce. Do the Bounce.
Soloist #1: Look so sweet.
Group: Do the Bounce. Do the Bounce.
Soloist #1: Special treat
Group: Do the Bounce. Do the Bounce.
All: Candy Girl.
All my world.
Look so sweet.
Special treat.
Soloist #2: This is the way we do the Snake.
Candy Girl.
Group: Do the bounce do the Snake.
Soloist #2: All my world.
Group: Do the Snake. Do the Snake.
Soloist #2: Look so sweet.
Group: Do the Snake. Do the Snake.
--T.M.P.(African American female; memories of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the mid 1980s; audio recording 1992; In 2000 I observed members of Braddock, Pennsylvania's chapter of Alafia Children�s Ensemble perform this cheer with the exact same beat, and tune, and the same words except for then popular R&B/Hip Hop dances)

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CANDY GIRL (Version #2)
does anybody know candy girl? little girls i know still play it!

candy girl, oh my world
look so sweet, special treat
this is the way you do the "wop"(or the "snake", or whatever dance is cute that u know the name of)
candy girl, say wop,wop
oh my world, say wop, wop
look so sweet, say wop,wop
special treat, say wop,wop(and then move on to the next dance)
- bitsy196 (African American female); http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=4123&page=4; �remember when?�; 6-25-2003 [no location given]

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CANDY GIRL (Version #3)
Candy girl,
all my world,
looks so sweet,
candy treat
This is the way
we do the (insert a dance)
Candy girl
Do the (dance) the (dance)
All my world
Do the (dance) the (dance)
Looks so sweet
Do the (dance) the (dance)
Candy treat
Do the (dance) the (dance)
(Repeat)
Directions:
This one involves the whole participation of the group at once. You repeat it for as many dances as you have until you can�t think of anymore.
-Jennifer (Korean), undergraduate female college student University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania ; remembrances of rhymes she performed when she was 8-12 years ; (she indicates that she learned this from African American girls); collected in 2005 via email to Azizi Powell in 2005
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Notice that the lyrics for these "Candy Girl" foot stomping cheers are very similar to the lyrics for the hand clapping/imitative motions example that was given in Kyra D. Gaunt's book The Games Black Girls Play.

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"Juice Juice, Let's Knock Some Boots" & Four Other Recreational Double Dutch Rhymes

"Juice Juice, Let's Knock Some Boots" & Four Other Recreational Double Dutch Rhymes
Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part III of a four part pancocojams series on recreational (street, old school) Double Dutch, with an emphasis on Double Dutch (jump rope) rhymes.

Part III showcases text (word only) examples of five recreational Double Dutch rhymes and provides comments about those examples, including suggesting probably Hip Hop sources for some of those rhymes.

The words to these rhymes are from Recess Battles: Playing, Fighting, and Storytelling, by Anna R. Beresin (Univ. Press of Mississippi, May 27, 2011).

Comments about the source of certain of these jump rope rhymes and explanations about the meanings of some of the topical references in those rhymes are also included in this post.

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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/07/speculation-about-when-why-recreational.html for Part I of this series. Part I presents my thoughts about the reasons for the demise of recreational Double Dutch with or without chanted rhymes. Part I also includes an excerpt from an online article that provides a general overview about recreational Double Dutch, with emphasis on the years that girls were involved in this activity.

In addition, Part I also showcases four YouTube videos of recreational or competitive sports Double Dutch. A video of Malcolm Mclaren's 1983 song "Double Dutch" is also featured in this post, particularly for its visual documentation of Double Dutch sports teams more than for its South African sourced music. Selected comments about Double Dutch from those videos' discussion threads are also included in this post.

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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/07/excerpt-about-recreational-double-dutch.html for Part II of this series. Part II features an excerpt from the chapter "Double Dutch And Double Cameras: Studying The Transmission Of Culture In An Urban School" by Ann Richman Beresina. This chapter is part of the 1999 book Children's Folklore: A SourceBook edited by Brian Sutton-Smith, Jay Mechling, Thomas W. Johnson, and Felicia McMahon (Utah State University Press, originally published in 1995).

In addition, Part II showcases the 1985/1986 McDonald Double Dutch commercial (which is also featured in Part I) as well as two YouTube videos of "Big Mac" performed as a two person and as a four person hand clap game.

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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/07/references-to-double-dutch-jump-rope-in.html for Part IV of this video. Part IV provides a partial time line of references to Double Dutch in American and British television shows, movies, commercials, and recorded songs.

This post also showcases one of this commercials: Coca Cola Double Dutch.

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The content of this post is presented for folkloric, cultural, and recreational purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Anna R. Beresin for documenting and sharing these examples. Thanks to all those who contributed the Double Dutch rhymes and other examples of children's rhymes that are included in that book. Thanks also to all others who are quoted in this post.
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This is part of an ongoing pancocojams series on Double Dutch (jump rope) and jump roping rope in general, particular as those activities relate to African American females.

Also, click the tags below to find other posts in this series.

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INFORMATION ABOUT THE SOURCE MATERIAL FOR THE DOUBLE DUTCH RHYMES THAT ARE FEATURED IN THIS POST
The words to these rhymes are from Recess Battles: Playing, Fighting, and Storytelling, by Anna R. Beresin (Univ. Press of Mississippi, May 27, 2011).

Here's an excerpt about this book from https://books.google.com/books?id=Wsm-IE3srh4C&dq=Boom+Boom+Tangle&source=gbs_navlinks_s
..."The author [Anna R. Beresin] videotaped and recorded children of the Mill School in Philadelphia from 1991 to 2004 and asked them to offer comments as they watched themselves at play. These sessions in Recess Battles raise questions about adult power and the changing frames of class, race, ethnicity, and gender. The grown-ups� clear misunderstanding of the complexity of children�s play is contrasted with the richness of the children�s folk traditions."...
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Anne R. Beresin is also the author of the chapter on Double Dutch that is featured in Part II of this pancocojams series.

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SELECTED EXAMPLES OF DOUBLE DUTCH RHYMES
The words to these examples are from https://books.google.com/books?id=Wsm-IE3srh4C&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=Boom+Boom+Tangle&source=bl&ots=mYDeDwycGK& "Recess Battles: Playing, Fighting, and Storytelling"

These examples are given in alphabetical order and are given without the underlining that was given in the original text for words that are emphasized during the girls' jumping.

Comments about each rhyme are given under that rhyme.

I.
BIG MAC
Big Mac
Fillet Of Fish
Quarter Pounder
French fries
Ice* Coke
Sundae and apple pie
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*"Ice Coke" is often chanted as "Icy Coke" in hand clap rhymes.

As mentioned in Part II of this series, the rhyme "Big Mac" is very widely performed as a hand clap rhyme in the United States and my sense is that very few children know that it was ever a jump rope rhyme. Instead of the title "Big Mac", I believe that the title "Welcome To McDonalds" is the one that is most often used for this hand clap. That title comes from the introductory words for that hand clap rhyme: "Welcome to McDonalds/may I take your order".

One contributing factor to the popularity of the "Big Mac" jump rope rhyme was probably the fact that it was featured in a 1985 McDonald commercial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo5DbV0ZKAI.

For some reason, in the hand clap version the line "and the dish ran away with the spoon" is frequently added to the end of that rhyme.

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II.
BOOM BOOM TANGLE
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang
Yo Kenya [jumper�s name] yo
Let me see you do the
MC Hammer she said
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang

Yo Kenya yo
Let me see you do the
Bobbie Brown she said
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang

Yo Kenya yo
Let me see you do the
Heavy D she said
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang

Yo Kenya yo
Let me see you do the
Roger Rabbit she said
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang

Yo Kenya yo
Let me see you do the
The Butterfly she said
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang

Yo Kenya yo
Let me see you do the
The Honky Tonk she said
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang


(1992, 1999)
"When an artist�s name was sung -M.C. Hammer, Bobbie Brown, Heavy D-the girls imitated the artist�s style, moves, gestures. The artists are mixed in with a reference to a movie character, Roger Rabbit, and the butterfly, a creature famous for changing his body"

[page 91, 92 in "Recess Battles: Playing, Fighting, and Storytelling"]
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Here are some friendly corrections to Anna R. Beresin's explanations for the let me see you do the" portion of this jump rope rhyme:
"MC. Hammer" and "Heavy D" were rappers

"Bobby Brown" was an R&B singer

"Roger Rabbit" was an animated movie character but in African American girls' texts "Roger Rabbit" was the name of a Hip Hop/ R&B dance

"the Butterfly" was the name of a Reggae dance that was very popular with African Americans.
(There are lots of references to "doing the Butterfly" in contemporary (1990s) African American girls' recreational rhymes and cheers).

"the Honky Tonk" was probably the name of a R&B/Hip Hop dance that was popular at that time in the Philadelphia area (although I'm not familiar with that dance).

Also, I wonder if Ms. Beresin meant the following by her transcription:
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang
Yo Kenya [jumper�s name] yo
Let me see you do the
MC Hammer
she [meaning Kenya said:
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang

Yo [another girl's name] yo
Let me see you do the
Bobbie Brown
she [meaning the girl who is named above] said:
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang
Boom boom tangle
tang boom tang
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And so on, with each "Yo" ___ "yo" being the name or nickname of another girl in the group.

"Yo" here means "Hey".

It's possible that my interpretation of this rhyme is colored by my interest in foot stomping cheers. However, this rhyme meets the characteristics of those cheers, including the beginning lines "Boom boom tangle".
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Here's a foot stomping cheer that I collected in the mid 1980s from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania that is similar to "Boom Boom Tangle":

AH RAH RAH AH BOOM TANG
Group: Ah Rah Rah Ah Boom Tang
Ah Rah Rah Ah Boom Tang
Ah Rah Rah Ah Boom Tang, baby
Ah Rah Rah Ah Boom Tang
Ah Rah Rah Ah Boom Tang
Soloist #1:My name is Tazi
Group: Ah Boom Tang
Soloist # 1:They call me Taz
Group: Ah Boom Tang
Soloist #1: And when they see me
Group: Ah Boom Tang
Soloist #1: They say �Ah Rah Rah
You look good, baby.�
Soloist #2:My name is Jennifer
Group: Ah Boom Tang
Soloist # 2:They call me Jenay
Group: Ah Boom Tang
Soloist #2: And when they see me
Group: Ah Boom Tang
Soloist #2: They say �Ah Rah Rah
Twist it, baby.�

(Repeat entire cheer with new soloist until everyone has had a turn).
-T.M.P. (African American female, from her memories of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the 1980s)

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While "Ah Rah Rah Ah Boom Tang" doesn't refer to dances, there are some other foot stomping cheers that do. Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/09/foot-stomping-cheers-alphabetical-list.html to find Page 1 of a pancocojams series on examples of foot stomping cheers. The links to the other pages ion that series are found in that post.

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III.
D.I.S.H. CHOICE
D.I.S.H. choice, do your footsies
D.I.S.H. choice, up the ladder
D.I.S.H. choice do your hopsies
D.I.S.H. choice do your turnsies
1, 2, and 3, and a i, 2, and 3
Hop, i, 2, and 3
Jump, 1, 2, and 3

{At choice* the jumper can do "what she wants")

(1992, 1999)
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[page 94 in "Recess Battles: Playing, Fighting, and Storytelling"]
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[Added August 7, 2017]

Here's some information about and another example of the rhyme "D.I.S.H. CHOICE":
"Some Jump Rope Rimes From South Philadelphia" by Roger D. Abrahams in Keystone Folklore Quarterly, Volume 8, Spring Issue 1963, edited by Simon Bronner

page 5
"In the game with two �enders�, there are three standard ways of turning the ropes, �single�, double Dutch�, �Irish or �double Irish� (the same as double-dutch only underhanded and much more difficult). The most common types are the counting games...

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Page 8
D. I.S. H. Choice
This is a jump that allows you to pick which way you want the rope turned. �D� stand for �Double Dutch�, �I� for �Irish�, �S� for single turn, �H� for �hop�, and �choice� is for any of the previous four.
The one you miss on is the one you must do.

D.I. S. H choice
D.I. S. H choice
D.I. S. H choice
H O P, hop
1, 2, 3"

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IV.
HEY DJ
Hey DJ let's sing that song
Keep a footin'
All night long
Hey DJ let's sing that song
Keep a hoppin'
All night long
Hey DJ let's sing that song
Keep a turnin'
All night long
Hey DJ let's sing that song
Keep a clappin'
All night long
(1992)

The body had to show "endurance" all night long and it had to show style and "get loose". Jumpers had to be disciplined "on time", and flexible ("Do it right").
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[page 94 in "Recess Battles: Playing, Fighting, and Storytelling"]
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The Double Dutch rhyme "Hey DJ" undoubtedly has its source in the hit 1984 Hip Hop record with that same title.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey_DJ
"Hey! DJ" is a song by The World's Famous Supreme Team. Writing is credited to Larry Price (Sedivine the Mastermind) & Ronald Larkins Jr. (Just Allah the Superstar) and it was produced by Stephen Hague. Released on 12" in 1984 on Island Records, there were three mixes included.[1] The song refers with small lyric parts to McLaren & Supreme Team's previous hit, "Buffalo Gals", which the group featured on. "Hey DJ" peaked at number fifteen on the US soul chart.[2]

Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5D1bgGetRY for a video of that song which includes the words "Keep em dancing all night."

By the way, the word "a" in this example and in most African American vernacular examples is pronounced "ah".

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V.
JUICE JUICE KNOCK MY BOOTS
Comments about the Double Dutch Rhyme "Juice Juice Knock My Boots"
The African American girls' Double Dutch rhyme "Juice Juice Knock My Boots" has its source in a then popular Hip Hop record.

From https://raphiphop.tuneforums.com/thread_view.php?threadID=476
Posted: 07/06/06 02:29 PM
Author: nittigr
Location: USA-GA
Late 80's/poss Early 90's Hip-Hop/Rap Song....
"There was a song out that may have been called 'Knock some boots' or 'We came here to knock some boots'. Does anyone remember this song or know who sang it? Thanks!"

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Posted: 12/12/06
Author: njoy2day
Location: Philadelphia

[Reply]
Late 80's/poss Early 90's Hip-Hop/Rap Song....
"The song you're looking for is entitled Knock Some Boots by Sam the Beast. "Feel that juice, time to get loose...we came here to knock some boots." He also made, Knock, Knock. "Knock, knock..who's there...knock,knock who's there...Sam I am." A guy named Scooter that works at a music store in Delaware can get it for you if you're interested. I was on the same quest myself!"

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Posted: 04/02/08 08:28 PM
Author: nittigr
Location: USA-GA

[Reply]

Late 80's/poss Early 90's Hip-Hop/Rap Song....
"YES>>>YES>>> thats the song by Sam the Beast! I know this reply is late...but I just got another reply from this recently so I thought I'd better leave a response so everyone knows."

Thank you!
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Note there were other rap songs that were mentioned in that discussion that had the title �knocking books� included the phrase �Knock some boots�., including Candyman �s Knockin' Boots

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